HIGHER EDUCATION TODAY - HEINZ KLUG, ANC UNDERGROUND TO LAW PROFESSOR Guest: Heinz Klug, Law Professor at University of Wisconsin Host: Steven Roy Goodman Original Air Date: 1 October 2019 On this episode of Higher Education Today, Steven has a conversation with Heinz Klug about Heinz’s history, particularly his time in South Africa in the 1960s/70s, his work in Botswana, and how he ended up in America teaching law. Heinz talks about his time as a young adult when he was an underground ANC insider which led to him being watched by the apartheid police/military. That situation led him to flee to Botswana, where he found refuge and employment has a “journalist” who worked in collating information from different sources about the ANC movement, putting it together, and distributing biweekly pamphlets. Later he received training in Angola to be part of the military wing of the ANC, Umkhonto we Sizwe, to help in the fight for freedom. He later found himself in America and became a professor of law at the University of Wisconsin teaching constitutional law. In his lectures he has discussions about what is an unjust law and when you can rebel against a law. He brings his experience of his past to his lectures. He facilitates mock constitutional law meetings where students pretend to be policy makers and they must resolve policies for people. He ends the conversation by giving advice to young people and he clears up a rumour about Oliver Tambo blessing Heinz’s marriage.